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Comment Archives: stories: Outside: Natural World

Re: “Turkey Vultures are Back Again

@anonymous user above; I only spent about five minutes during my lunch googling this, but I was able to find this scholarly reference:…

It shows that in 1973 patagial tags for red-tailed hawks weighed 4 grams, and other birds' patagial tags had weights and sizes proportionate to their body sizes. I would be surprised if the weight had gone up with our advances in material science over the past several decades. Another quick google search shows the low range for red-tailed hawk adult weight at 690 grams. This means that the patagial tag is approximately 0.5% of the bird's body weight.

I'm not specifically aware of how much Jim Anderson weighs, but a 70 lb tag weight would put his weight at 14,000 lbs if the same proportion was maintained. Hopefully this shows just how ridiculous an exaggeration you're making here.

Another quick google: "Ethics of patagial tags". This string will return almost 160 scholarly articles considering various impacts of patagial tags specifically on various aspects of bird behavior and health, and some will include cost-benefit analysis of those impacts versus conservation benefits for the species. Different search strings would likely bring even more results. We cannot fix a problem we don't understand. Period.

Your comment assumes scientist blindly chase data at the expense of the health of the species they are researching. Frankly it is insulting to those who have dedicated their lives to conservation efforts.

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Posted by CMcCue on 03/18/2019 at 11:24 AM

Re: “Turkey Vultures are Back Again

How about a story about the number of animals killed and/or injured simply so some scientist can write a paper. Terrorizing animals simply for humans inability to understand things should have been stopped years ago as how can any relent data be collected from a terrorized injured animal with tags and radio collars attached to them.
Any scientist would laugh at you if you strapped a radio collar on a human that was a size and shape that was proportional to their weight of what we use on animals and expect to get any real data. If Jim Anderson was tracked, tackled, held down and had a 70lb radio collar strapped to his neck, a number spray painter on his forehead and a GPS tracker super glued to his back do you think it may hamper his reactions to movement and natural retractions to every stimuli he encounters.
Self proclaiming yourself a naturalist and citizen scientiest in no way means nature can survive your intrusions or barbaric actions.

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Posted by anonymous on 03/14/2019 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Friend or Foe?: The truth about the black widow

Fantastic article! Thank you

Posted by Amanda McArthy-Foust on 02/25/2019 at 9:44 PM

Re: “They're on the Move!

Both last year and this we have been camp hosts at Tumalo State Park December through February. Last year - virtually zero robins and this year they are coming through in waves each day (and yes, creating a lot of work for us in cleaning the seedy poop off the picnic tables and sidewalks!). Do you have any idea why the difference - seems like the two winters are relatively the same (not like two winters ago with all the snow)?

Posted by Alison McElwain Erickson on 01/29/2019 at 11:34 AM

Re: “They're on the Move!

Cool article, thanks!

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Posted by MajorMajorx2 on 01/29/2019 at 8:11 AM

Re: “Where Have All the Insects Gone?

Thanks for another article telling it like it is Jim. I hope we are smart enough to realize how strong the connection is between our health and that of the rest of the planet-before its too late.

Posted by Alice on 01/11/2019 at 8:03 PM

Re: “Packing Off Pack Rats: Don't kill the rats, move 'em

Come on, people, poison isn't necessary, and could inadvertently poison pets or livestock. The one time I tried it, the packrat went crazy and made a total mess of my cabin before dying.

A couple of people already said the solution I find the easiest - catch them in a Havahart trap and submerge it in the nearest creek or large barrel of water. I thought it might be hard, but no, it was pretty easy and quick. I'll deal with my karma, which is in pretty good balance, thank you.

The only part I'm not sure about is how to make sure the fleas don't survive. Perhaps burying to a certain depth? Or leaving them in the water long enough to kill the fleas?

At any rate, after having much of the insulation in my cabin in the country tunneled through by packrats, I am ready to reclaim my territory. After discovering a previously unknown hole where the ridgepole meets the dimensional lumber, and badly so, I covered it over with a piece of hardware cloth, and for now that seems to have done the trick. But now I will have to deconstruct the wood ceiling and walls in all the places they got into, clean them (with something like Citra-Solv), and make sure from inside that the entrances are gone, and reinforce vulnerable areas with more hardware cloth. I plan to make a solution of plant scents they don't like to saturate their areas. (Lavender, rosemary, cedar, sage... which also happen to be good antifungals.)

As for relocating, I agree that it is a horrible idea - they will either come back or become someone else's problem. Think of your home or car as the primary bait, and offer them something else - a feast in a Havahart - and then do them in.

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Posted by Karen Weed Warrior on 11/24/2018 at 10:00 AM

Re: “The Black Widow's Sister Arrives

Venom is delivered via injection from a bite. plants don't bite, so can't be venomous, but animals can be poisonous (e.g. poison arrow frogs)

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Posted by Kelly Clowers on 11/02/2018 at 3:11 PM

Re: “Sydney the Cygnet Lives On

The flight feathers on Sydney's wings were only trimmed temporarily.
ODFW and the Trumpeter Swan Society decided Sydney would have a greater chance of survival if she stayed with her parents for the winter. They wanted to temporarily prevent her from flying so she won't be able to fly into power lines - a huge threat to trumpeters. As far as predators go, Sydney was much more vulnerable when she was a tiny cygnet.
Pete and Eloise are excellent protective parents who do a great job of fighting off any potential threats to Sydney.
Once the spring comes, Sydney will grow new flight feathers and be taken to Summer Lake to live her life as a free swan. Sydney is in NO WAY a prisoner or part of an ill advised petting zoo.

Posted by Robin Gold on 10/26/2018 at 4:10 PM

Re: “Sydney the Cygnet Lives On

I would like to understand ODFWs reasoning for the wing clipping. Sounds ridiculous to hamper an animals natural abilities and defenses. That said, thank you Pam, Tim, and Robin, for the care you show and the effort you make to help this lovely family.

Posted by Diane on 10/25/2018 at 9:19 PM

Re: “Coyotes: Clever Rebounders

Great story. Bless your heart.

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Posted by Ann Frances on 10/25/2018 at 8:43 PM

Re: “Sydney the Cygnet Lives On

Isn"t that special, a group of people trying to make life better for the clipped wing prisoner swan. This is just barley above the petting zoo with the bear in a pit for all to see and throw things at.
Anyone want to do a story about how fish and wildlife clipped the wings of all the swans in drake park so they would not leave, then had to ask local kayakers to go look for where they went when they all went over the 30" dam above the Riverhouse because they could not fly and were forced to float downstream through the class IV rapids before their eventual death.
Good thing mother nature has "us" to manage things.

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Posted by anonymous on 10/25/2018 at 7:56 AM

Re: “Sydney the Cygnet Lives On

My comment has to do w the clipping of flight feathers so the swans cannot fly ... doesnt that make them more likely to be a victim of predators? I know this has happened in another state, possibly Arizona, and the swans they had have dwindled due to predators killing them as they cannot fly.

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Posted by Patti Bogan on 10/24/2018 at 7:41 PM

Re: “Dogs in the Fast Lane: Don't put your pooch in the back of your pickup truck


Posted by rb on 10/19/2018 at 8:52 PM

Re: “Wildlife and Diseases

Rodents are very dirty. They merely seek into our property for food and shelter. Their presence creates unsanitary condition all round. They carry disease, leave bodily waste, and always manage to chew on the important items. Mice and rats need to be exterminated in order to prevent our family from dangerous diseases. Live mouse traps are the most common method used for getting rid of this infestation. Many times these nasty pests also trick the traps and become a huge problem for the homeowners. Here we need the help of professionals to come and suggest some effective and long-lasting solutions.

Posted by Antonia McElroy on 10/12/2018 at 3:57 AM

Re: “Coyotes: Clever Rebounders

I love fiction

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Posted by Steven Childs on 10/11/2018 at 4:56 PM

Re: “Backyard Scorpions: We've got some of the stingers in these parts, but don't worry

I found one today in sink of all places. Someone said they come from septic! Is that true?

Posted by abigail on 10/08/2018 at 3:48 PM

Re: “Backyard Scorpions: We've got some of the stingers in these parts, but don't worry

I live near Klamath Falls and we've had 3 in the last couple of weeks, all in the house. Maybe they come in on my husband after he's been out working on the wood pile? Told him to start stripping down in the garage.

Posted by Barbara Yancey Medart on 09/11/2018 at 10:44 AM

Re: “Natural World

Matt: Thanks for the suggestion, but that's not in accordance with our stylebook.

Posted by Nicole Vulcan on 08/24/2018 at 1:25 PM

Re: “Natural World

Thanks Nicole! Just another heads up, when using acronyms, it's best to declare what the acronym represents by putting it in parenthesis after the first use of the non-acronym form, that way the reader can be certain what it's referring to.

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Posted by Matt Skeels on 08/24/2018 at 12:21 PM

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