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Re: “An Alt CBD

There is no THC in it! That is 100% true. I ate this kind of CBD as well as many other types of CBD products and took dozens of drug tests and never failed one!

Posted by Treva on 08/16/2019 at 6:26 PM

Re: “Opt Out Afoot

You can disrespectfully call it a soap opera, Mr Jeremy Dickman, but if you had to pay $20,000 to redrill a well that had run dry on your property because the neighbors sucked it dry with their pot farm, I wonder how you would feel. As you may not know, because you do not seem to be a farmer, the pot growers do not want to use irrigation water because it is too dirty for their use and it only runs 6 months out of the year and they want to grow year round, and it is very expensive to truck in water for these very big and thirsty plants. So they use groundwater, often illegally.

And if you could not sell your property and had to take a significant price cut on it because no young family with children wants to buy it, I wonder what you would do. Contrary to your article, it is not retired folks that buy our rural 5, 10, 20 acre lots but young people who want to raise their kids on the land, with 4H or chickens or horses, that have the energy to work the land. Now these families risk to live near a farm with security gates and cameras, armed guards, that let the pasture dry up and go to weeds while they grow pot in greenhouses on concrete slabs in pot, as far away from nature as they can get. And if seasonal pickers roam the neighborhood that get paid in cash and look at your equipment standing on your land, I wonder how you would feel.
And you misinform the public by saying that an opt out costs the taxpayers money, the opposite is true. Policing the pot grows is what costs so much money (the Sheriff is against them). There is only 50% compliance, as you may be aware, and many busts of illegal activities on the Deschutes County grows have already occurred. Several well known Bend pot grows and their owners have been in the news with these, as well as many illegal ones, as about 75% of sales occur on the black market and generate no tax income, as it is expensive to buy these products in the pot shops.

The farm bureau members are biased, almost all of them grow pot, so that is not a good source of information. Because of this, most of our local farmers want nothing to do with them.

Also, rural Deschutes County voted against Marijuana, so again you misinform your readers. And it passed only by a slight margin in the rest of the County.
You are correct in saying that we need to spend money on Mental Health due to this. As a matter of fact, we already do. COCC had to hire a counselor to deal with the falling grades and lack in competitiveness and attendance noted by students due to recreational Marijuana, the same is true in our local High Schools, ask any coach or principal. Plus, dont forget the cost to the public from hospital admissions for hyperemesis and psychosis caused by recreational marijuana. If you dont know what that means, you may want to look it up. Another health note needs to be made on poisonings. The pesticides and herbicides on these plants are 100% unregulated and many growers use them in abundance, because mildew, plant diseases, aphids etc love warm humid brightly lit environments with fast growing plants such as pot greenhouses. Because of this, California had to pull 25% of tested products off the shelves.
We currently have a 6 1/2 year oversupply of pot in Oregon already, so not producing any more will actually help current growers and protect potential new growers from loosing their money. The wholesale price dropped by half last year alone. And as members of the farm bureau that own pot shops and farms in the area can tell you, over half the pot growers in Oregon already went out of business last year.
So, it is actually cheaper for the taxpayers to opt out. It is better for the rural community. It does not mean that supply will be an issue. It means, as an adult, you need to learn from your mistakes and act on them.
A rural resident of Deschutes County

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Posted by Su on 08/16/2019 at 12:17 PM

Re: “Is the county applying a morality test to land-use decisions?

Really, Bend commissioners? Could you employees of the local citizenry do some independent research and reading of your own? Put down your glass / bottle of Pinot and actually look at more than one source of scientific, peer reviewed research on cannabis. As a 62 year old grandmother and masters prepared addiction counselor, I am far more concerned by the public health ramifications of alcohol and tobacco use (both heavily subsidized by our government) than I am the judicious and regulated offering of cannabis products to adults. Lets not turn the study of this issue into yet another example of the head-in-the-sand fake news town criers already too prevalent in our country.

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Posted by pat 1 on 07/07/2019 at 7:16 PM

Re: “Legislating Morality Through Land Use

We need more than 3 county commissioners! When 2 people can ramrod an issue, there needs to be a little more balance. Five commissioners would be very helpful with staggered terms. Institutional memory can be affected negatively when 2 commissioners come to serve with very little time on the board.

Posted by Hiker2 on 06/19/2019 at 12:18 PM

Re: “Legislating Morality Through Land Use

Thank you Jeremy for exposing the biased decisions made by two of Deschutes Countys commissioners. The citizens of Deschutes County need to be aware of the prejudice on display. Wont take too many more of these kinds of decisions to bring the State Land Use Board into the county to relieve the current administration.

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Posted by Bushka on 06/13/2019 at 6:45 PM

Re: “An Alt CBD

Its all BS. These ppl are probably mixing some chinese isolate with citrus terpenes and calling it evergreen bark cbd. I don't believe it cause the patent would be all over the place by now and how come some asians didn't discover the cbd in this evergreen tree. They've been studying there own backyard for centuries. Hell even the jews have been all over the world testing other plants for cbd and they didn't discover this other natural source. Nope not a chance and the first place this game changing source ends up in is some fancy overpriced chocolates that started off being laced with thc in oregon, lmao smh.

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Posted by Hus Sae on 05/26/2019 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Is the county applying a morality test to land-use decisions?

Why did you elect Patty Adir Deschutes County?? All you have to do is meet her once and you'd know you were making a mistake.

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Posted by MajorMajorx2 on 05/09/2019 at 3:06 PM

Re: “Cannabis Headlines Nationwide

Tracking pot with chemicals. Reminds me of paraquat.…

Posted by Devon Wallace on 04/16/2019 at 7:14 AM

Re: “Don't forget That Being Anti-Cannabis Pays, Too

Data from the Centers for Disease Control proves that cannabis is much safer than alcoholic beverages or tobacco products. Why do some of our politicians want cannabis to remain illegal? The answer is easy and has nothing to do with public safety, just follow the money! Who is against cannabis legalization in our nation today?
* Politicians corrupted by money from corporations against cannabis legalization
* Drug cartels and organized crime will lose $100,000,000,000 (100 BILLION) in cannabis sales forever in favor of legitimate business, regulation and taxation.
* Corrupt DEA officials afraid of losing their jobs.
* Court forced cannabis rehab Centers will go out of business.
* Police and Private prisons will lose federal grant money and up to 30% of their drug related "customers". Well known contributors to anti legalization efforts.
* Big pharmaceutical corporations are scared witless that cannabis will replace their multi-billion dollar addictive stranglehold on the US public because cannabis works better and has no physical addiction. Well known contributors to anti legalization efforts.
* The alcoholic beverage industries are the largest financial lobby against cannabis legalization. They know cannabis is safer and less toxic than booze and it is already being used as an alternative by millions of American citizens.

Legalization seems like a slam dunk considering the relative safety records of cannabis, booze and tobacco. Makes you wonder if our politicians and lawmakers answer to "we the people" or the corporations and criminals listed above.

Legalize, regulate and TAX recreational cannabis!

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Posted by Goodbye2Freedom on 04/10/2019 at 3:55 PM

Re: “Don't forget That Being Anti-Cannabis Pays, Too

Excellent write up Jeremy. As one who has faced Ms Dickson's "kitchen sink" and other claims irrelevant to the Deschutes County code I can personally attest to the accuracy of your story.

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Posted by FarmerD on 04/10/2019 at 3:28 PM

Re: “Dangers of Reefer Madness, Outside Legal States

Americans don't have to like cannabis, but they should hate its prohibition. This prohibition law strikes at the very foundation of our society. It is a tool of tyrants, used to violate core American beliefs and nearly every aspect of the Bill of Rights.

A populace that accepts and becomes accustom to overreaching government policies, such as the prohibition of relatively safe, popular substances, becomes more accepting of overreaching, powerful government in general. This devastates America, not a plant that has been used by mankind since the beginning of recorded history.

Those who believe in limited government, personal responsibility, free markets, and individual liberty should embrace the ending of this irrational, un-American, fraudulently enacted cannabis prohibition experiment. It should be the cornerstone of current GOP policy.

Federal studies show about half of the U.S. population has tried cannabis, at least 15% use it regularly, over 80% of high school seniors have reported cannabis "easy to get" for decades. This prohibition, like alcohol prohibition has had little of its intended effect. In many cases cannabis prohibition makes cannabis usage problematic where it would not have been otherwise, be it light, moderate, or heavy usage. For the most part, cannabis prohibition only successfully prohibits effective regulation.

A few issues created by prohibition: there are no quality controls to reduce contaminants (harmful pesticides, molds, fungus, other drugs), there is no practical way to prevent regular underage sales, billions in tax revenue are lost which can be used for all substance abuse treatment, underground markets for all drugs are empowered as a far more popular substance is placed within them expanding their reach and increasing their profits, criminal records make pursuing many decent careers difficult, police and court resources are unnecessarily tied up by pursuing and prosecuting victimless 'crimes', public mistrust and disrespect for our legal system, police, and government is increased, which is devastating our country.

Prohibition is also very expensive, though, a cash cow for a number of powerful groups such as those related to law enforcement and the prison industry. These organizations have powerful lobbies and influence that perpetuate a failed drug policy through ignorance, fear, disinformation and misinformation. This ensures an endless supply of lucrative contracts, grants and subsidies from the government and its taxpayers to support their salaries, tools of the trade, 'correctional' services, and other expenses. Cash, property and other assets from civil forfeiture laws also significantly fatten their coffers while often violating civil rights.

America was built on the principles of freedom and liberty. In some cases there are extreme circumstances that warrant intervention with criminal law. In the case of mind-altering drugs we have already set this precedent with alcohol. Cannabis is less harmful than alcohol to the consumer and especially to others. If we are to have justice, then the penalties for using, possessing and selling cannabis should be no worse than those of alcohol.

Regardless of legal status, a large market for cannabis will continue to exist as it has for decades. Either the underground controls the market and profits from it, or the state does...all while ending their assault on our citizens. Let's end this costly, futile attempt to eradicate a plant that a majority of Americans believe should be legal.

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Posted by Devon Wallace on 04/03/2019 at 5:46 PM

Re: “Know Your Grow

I They use Co2. High terpene/flavonoid retention is achieved through a proprietary process they've developed called Terp-Lock, where they often see terpene yields in the double-digit percentages.

I had very specific effects dependent upon which edible I consumed, so I don't find your belief rregarding strain type having no impact to be correct.

The article is in reference to one producer, so most of the time these brands has no bearing on what Peak is producing.

I think the depth and breadth of knowledge of the principles described in the piece negates your assertion that Peak is promoting misinformation and have a lack of R&D. Their position in the market also underscores that.

I agree there are some garbage products in all lanes of the cannabis market which do a disservice to consumers. But I didn't find Peak to be such a brand.

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Posted by onlinecommentsmeannada on 03/11/2019 at 7:17 PM

Re: “Know Your Grow

Strain specific within edibles doesn't matter as the effects felt during smoking or vaping cannabis come from the entourage effect & specifically the activation of terpenes & flavonoids. Those two items are what makes a strain "specific", or a better term here would be a cultivar. When you eat or drink cannabis, the entourage effect still works with the other 4,000 or so chemical compounds but your body is much much less influenced by the terpenes & flavonoids. Ratios (1:1, 4:1, 2:1) and dosage matter over everything else. Also, most of the time these brands are not decarbing flower at the minimum temp then adding it to the product (the only true way to keep the essence of that cultivar intact). Also, if they are using BHO Distillate which essentially rips out the goods of the flower, then it really has no effect as far as making you motivated or sleepy. Again, dosage & ratio AND your own body's chemistry are what is going to make you feel what you feel. Brands like Peak are promoting mis-information due to market demand and the lack of their own R&D research.

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Posted by Kurt Armstrong on 03/07/2019 at 4:59 AM

Re: “County Board vs. Marijuana: Axes are grinding

Thanks for reading, Neil!

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Posted by Nicole Vulcan on 02/26/2019 at 1:32 PM

Re: “County Board vs. Marijuana: Axes are grinding

The only politics involved here is with the reporter. Must be from The Source, a left-wing rag in Central Oregon. Obviously, this county like others in the state, are going through growing pains with a myriad of items regarding marijuana production. I say, take it slow and easy folks. Once these farms are online itll take monumental action to amend and stop any counterproductive impact on a county. I commend the commissioners for their deliberate, precautionary actions.

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Posted by Neil Ripsch on 02/19/2019 at 7:30 AM

Re: “County Board vs. Marijuana: Axes are grinding

This is the beginning of what I would define as "poor governance" by the two Republican County Commisoners. Both have a biased political agenda with little regard for the county regulations that are in place.

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Posted by Mr. Lucky on 02/18/2019 at 9:53 AM

Re: “A Secret Committee Revealed

God! I wish they would do a secret committee on gun violence instead.

Posted by Hiker2 on 02/14/2019 at 7:02 AM

Re: “County Board vs. Marijuana: Axes are grinding

If the Rhinestone Ranch wants to be an actual children's activity center then it really should have a permit and be open to inspection for safety.

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Posted by Hiker2 on 02/14/2019 at 6:51 AM

Re: “Canada's Legalization, Four Months In

Canada created communist cannabis. Its all big money! You could learn about freedom from the USA! Also enjoy the fame while you have it, because as soon as we can export cannabis, west coast weed will continue to dominate global sales. O and thats just 1 of our 50 states. It will only take 1 American state to put to shame the entire country of canada. You may have got a head start on export, but you forgot one key factor in the long run.... Cali weed is a global cannabis brand, it has been for years. No one gives a fuck about about canada's shity weed!

Posted by BluntForce Farmer on 02/06/2019 at 12:11 PM

Re: “An Alt CBD

Have you heard of any more research on the citrus CBD?

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Posted by ay on 01/30/2019 at 7:39 PM

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