Some say that Americans are particularly weak in the subjects of math
and science. This is unfortunate, since these are the disciplines which
prove that 9/11 was a false-flag inside job.
Other nations are now
having open discussions about the evidence which supports that 9/11 was
done by a rogue element within the United States government working in
unison with certain foreign factions.
A Danish news channel
interviewed an observer who said one only needs to be able to count to
three to figure out something is wrong with the official story of 9/11.
Two planes flew into two skyscrapers and pulverized three huge
buildings into dust and 30-foot lengths of steel.
Some say we can never know what really happened on 9/11. They claim to be agnostics on the subject. With respect to the Pentagon, this is patently false.
The Pentagon is the most protected edifice in the world and is protected by a missile battery. Only aircraft with friendly transponders are allowed to enter Pentagon air space. Any unchallenged attack should be suspect.
The crash site shows one relatively small circular hole (16 to 20 feet in diameter) in the building and little or no plane wreckage from a Boeing 757. The huge titanium multi-ton jet motors, which are virtually indestructible, were never found, nor did they create any holes upon impact with the building.
Norman Mineta’s testimony to the 9/11 Commission proves that Dick Cheney had advance knowledge of the incoming aircraft and that there were specific orders in place. A young man came in as the aircraft was approaching and asked the VP, “Do the orders still stand, sir?” The VP snarled back, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?” For Dick Cheney the Pentagon attack was no surprise.
Importantly, there were possibly as many as 80 surveillance cameras in operation around the Pentagon on 9/11, which were immediately confiscated by the FBI on that day. Some of them will undoubtedly show exactly what happened.
At this juncture the government has released only five frames of the videotapes, which prove nothing because they show nothing. Government reticence suggests it is hiding something.
If our government is being truthful about the Pentagon, the videos will prove it. Every American should demand a release of all Pentagon videos taken on the day of the 9/11 attacks. All we want is the truth.
Jim Mahan, Bend
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I’m on your side. Have you seen Loose Change? Great documentary on the events of 9/11. If you choose to believe it or not, it will open your eyes and make you wonder how much the government really hides from us.
Did you ever hear of the principle of Occam’s Razor? Give me the name of ONE conspirator who can be proven with concrete evidence to have participated in this event (and no, allegations about Cheney don’t count)and we’re good to go. You can’t, because they don’t exist.
The ‘Truthers’ have to get over it–the same shitty attitudes, prejudices and ignorant assumptions by our politicians and intelligence community that led to the Iraq War created a condition where 9/11 was possible. Attitudes? Such as we were protected from the third world conflicts by distance and superior intelligence and military might. Prejudices? Arabs are ignorant towel-heads who can’t put together a plan that could possibly be as complex, well-planned and long visioned (I think most Truthers fall into this category still!) Assumptions? The government has a plan to protect us from everything–piss poor building design, mediocre airport security, slow responding civil defense, agencies that don’t share information but are always willing to share the blame.
The real tragedy of 9/11 is that it will probably happen again–how can it not? We are a free and open society that allows these things to happen. Freedom is more important than security. It always has been–always will be. If it wasn’t, Mahan and the rest who agree with him would be out of sight and out of mind.
After all, a cabal of this nature would have no trouble shutting down the dissenters. It has kept everyone who participated in line thus far.
Oh no, here comes the Leftist idiots again. Show me proof that there was some Conspiracy. There wasn’t. You people really need to get back to reality.
There is enough data readily available to the general public to conclude that this is not simply a ‘theory’, but is in fact a ‘conspiracy’.
Once you’ve shot your tv, you may speak to me.
Provided, I’ve spoken to you.
Yes, because the most incompetent government in the history of this country was somehow able to pull off the biggest conspiracy ever…..on second thought….maybe not.
There are many troubling holes in the “official” explanation of 9/11. The problem is there are also many holes in the “9/11 truth” theory. For example: If a plane didn’t hit the Pentagon, what happened to the plane the supposedly hit it, not to mention all its passengers? If the twin towers were brought down by controlled demolition, who planted the explosives and when, and how did they manage to do it without being detected? Finally — and this, for me, is the biggie — how was it possible to pull off a conspiracy involving certainly hundreds and possibly more than a thousand people and keep it a secret?
Applying Occam’s Razor (as a previous poster suggested) to this problem, it seems much more plausible that the administration knew or had a strong suspicion an attack was coming and simply allowed it to happen than that it actively staged a “false flag” attack.
The 9/11 Truthers may now feel free to pile on.
Mahan: Which rogue element within the government? Which foreign factions? Produce a single lone conspirator from among the thousands necessary.
These are the very same drooling lunatics who proclaim the entire Bush Administration couldn’t find it’s own ass with 10,000 hands groping for eight years.
I have a new theory on 911: Jim Mahan did it. Evidence? None whatsoever. According to these pro-nutjobbers, none is required.
So, fess up, Mahan…
No sign of huge titanium multi-ton jet motors? Only a few parts are made of titanium and it is well documented by high speed photographic means that a 12 pound Canadian honker sucked into the intake of a jet engine causes it to come apart into pieces about the size of a grape. The internals are whirling at about 120,000 RPM. Imagine what a cement building being sucked into it at an approach speed of 550 MPH or so would do…the grapes become decimated raisin paste down to the molecular level.
Mahan, if you are so great at math, calculate the ballistic impact energy of a 750,000 lb. object going 550 MPH…don’t forget to throw 8000 gallons of jet fuel into your equation.
Many private photographs exist of those planes flying into the towers. Is all that fake? Are all these common ordinary citizens part of your conspiracy? If those planes did fly into the buildings, who flew them? Most civilized Western people don’t prefer to commit suicide to aid in someone else’s plot. Who do we know from experience that would be willing to kill themselves in this way? Does Islam ring a dim bell in the foggy intellect, Mahan?
You seem to be suggesting that the towers came down as proclaimed, but the Pentagon alone was a conspiracy? How extraordinary that the plot to blow up the Pentagon just happened to precisely coincide with an unruly batch of Islamic a-holes taking down the towers! The mathematical probability of that is roughly 462 trillion to one.
Facts are required to convict. Where 10,000 or so facts are necessary, you have less than one. Were you a truly reasonable person, you could definately loose weight, by laughing your ass off…
Mr. Mahan: There exists a psychological profile for “Conspiracy Buffs,” such as yourself. The first step toward healing, would be to avail yourself of same. When you read the profile and look in the mirror and deduce that person described is you, self awareness could become yours with appropriate counseling.
Part of what you will learn, is that when you “believe,” in something, with no facts to support that belief, you are projecting yourself into the equation. Put another way, the conspiracy theory you subscribe to, says a lot more about you than the imaginary conspiracy itself. You have an inner need for it to be so.
Your type has a need “for it to be so,” so intensely, that common sense and reason fly out the window.
Get help.
Rumors have been going around that apparently answer the question of why no conspirator has come forth relative to 9/11. They are all dead.
The Mastermind of 9/11, “The Supreme They Being, or TSTB,” as we shall call him, has been exposed. TSTB, through contacts within rogue elements hidden near the very bowels of government, (with tentacles reaching clear out as far as certain foreign factions,) had inadvertently stumbled upon a plot by operatives of I.S.L.A.M. (Incredibly Stupid Lame Ass Muslims) but, with no date certain. TSTB personally hung out in the rest room of a certain Florida flight school disguised as a free standing mop closet, where only he learned the date certain, overheard from the chatty conspirators using the urinal.
TSTB had all the covert dudes and dudess’ aware of this impending strike by I.S.L.A.M. converge upon the world trade center towers under the guise of testing security there, but fiendishly at the witching hour of destruction.
Thusly, TSTB had merely to toodle down the freeway adjacent to the Pentagon in his 57′ Renault Dauphine, set his Phazer to “Pentagon,” and the rest is history.
Why, you might ponder, the Pentagon? Some long forgotten grievence of a personal nature, no doubt.
The identity of TSTB? Here, answers very. Some say Ted Kennedy, some say the Tooth Fairy. Personally, I like to believe it was my first grade teacher, Mrs. Shaw, who made me stand in the corner. A lot.
Mahan, please note: Having heard enough of this back and forth on 911, I decided to find out the truth for my own peace of mind.
There is a wise old Eskimo woman who lives out behind the landfill in an abandoned ice cave who knows everything. The key to this individuals wisdom, is a clever “crystal” ball made up of thousands of the cast off used toothpicks of the former Truman Capote, sanded down and epoxied together with dried frog slobber and polished to a high lustre. Don’t try this at home.
After paying the going rate of a six pack of anything, and waiting for the moon to wax a little, she told me THE TRUTH OF 911…
It was an iceberg that did it! Not just any iceberg, mind you, but the very same iceberg that conspired to sink the Titanic! The pure Zen of it! Buildings that can’t be knocked down VS a ship that can’t be sunk…
So, there you have it, Mahan. Makes a lot of sense, if you think about it.
Channing makes a lot of sense. After all, Truman Capote was a smart little cherub. Only fitting that his old toothpicks would be the key to Unlocking The Mysteries Of 911.
Also fitting that Mahan should refund your $3.99 plus deposit, though. Fair is fair.
How many of these statements of “fact” from “truthers” need to be shot full of holes before they shut their own holes?! I lived in Arlington during the attack and saw this stuff first hand. If you’ve ever flown into DCA, you know that you fly directly over the Potomac and basically over the Pentagon when landing from the west. I don’t know how many times I’ve looked straight down out of a commercial aircraft window and been staring at the Pentagon (oh, and I was never shot down by a SAM). But, but you were in a commercial jet and those all have “friendly transponders.” Well, what do you think hit the Pentagon and don’t give me the crap about a missle…too many people saw the jet. By the way, immediately after the attacks, there were mobile missle batteries installed around the Pentagon that weren’t there before. I commuted on Washingotn Blvd every day and saw the change, so it wasn’t as protected as you have stated. Also, there was a HUGE hole in the Pentagon after the impact. Try looking at all of the photographs and not just the ones selected by the Loose Change morons. In fact, the picture that they touted as evidence for so long was actually next to the impact damage. The small hole was made by firefighters. Oh, dang…there is another “Fact” that you will soon forget was the foundation of your case for awhile. It makes me laugh that these people who hate the Bush administration SO MUCH are using the same sort of techniques that were used to get us into this horrible war. Let’s start with a supposition, weed out any provable facts that disagree with us, cherry pick and manipulate other facts and then use fear as a tool. Way to become what you hate.
Occam’s Razor? I use and recommend a Norelco rechargeable. But if you insist on shaving with Occamâ ™s Razor, why not really use it? All that really was needed to allow 911 to happen was for the leaders in charge to ignore all the warnings about incoming terrorist attacks and just allow one to happen. There are plenty of folks in the world who hate the way the US businesses treat foreigners who have desirable resources and think that attacking the US is somehow a good strategy.
Letâ ™s remind ourselves that the former US head of anti-terrorism, Richard Clark, testified that the Bush/Cheney administration ignored his warnings. So the question left is did the Cheney/Bush administration ignore those warnings intentionally or out of sheer bumbling foolish incompetence?
Oh, and back in, I think, 1992, Richard Perle wrote an essay saying that such a large event was needed in order for his group, The Project For The New American Century, to take the power they needed.
So. They had the motive, and the method, but did they commit the crime of allowing an attack on the US in order to take the power of War President in a never-ending war, a power which in essence suspends the United States Constitution and allows the President to rule as a military dictator?
Or are they just bumbling incompetent people?
Either way, letâ ™s throw the bums out!
Er, dis-elect them!
With none other than G.w.’s brother being in charge of securtiy at the WTC prior to the attacks, certain floors being entirely vacant in the twin towers for weeks prior to the attacks (that is, except for the reported workers on those floors during that time), the $48 million given by Bush to the Taliban in March of 2001, Bush et.al. ignoring? the PDF of Aug. 6, 2001 in which he is warned that terrorists are planning to attack, the possibility that it was known where the attack would take place and by planting explosives in that place would create destruction beyond the scale of what any planes could possibly have done and provide the perfect excuse for this administration of chickenhawks (no offense to chickenhawks) of which, I believe,conveniently ,only Bush and Cheney remain, to pursue their goals of enriching those who they are connected to, i.e. Halliburton, Blackwater, Daddy Bush, Carlyle Group, etc. and on and on, it becomes more and more plausible that, indeed this certainly could have been an inside job layered over the top of an outside job. Critical thinkers are, by nature, suspicious especially when Bush and Co. have done everything possible to hide the truth about 9-11 and almost every other malevolent deed they’ve committed. These are sick and twisted people who will do anything to achieve their goals and once you accept that fact it seems reasonable to at least consider theories that might disagree with the official story.
I vote for the simplest explanation:
“Or are they just bumbling incompetent people?”
and I would add arrogant, self-righteous and deluded to the description.
People are so naive. Just because they can’t figure out how this rogue element carried out 911, they think it can’t be done. When you have idiots like Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and O’Reilley covering for you, it’s a snap. Don’t forget, even Dan Rather wouldn’t tell the truth because he feared the equivalent of a “burning tire” being wrapped around his neck for just ASKING the tough questions. People are scared to death of telling all, and rightly so.
Occam’s Razor would eliminate the possibility of three buildings collapsing at free-fall speed, one of the building not having been hit by a plane. Please explain why building seven wasn’t even mentioned in the 911 report. How often have you been shown building 7 on TV? Never, because it’s an in-your-face obvious indictment of the official story.. . It’s taken about 50 years to totally emasculate the American people. They say the French have an attitude. Truck drivers, for instance, will shut down the country to get the wages and hours they want. You bet your sweet bippie. The government is afraid of the people, which is the way it ought to be. I like that trait in a citizen of a republic. Here, we gleefully purchase $200 Nike shoes made by slaves, while screwing our own workers – because, hey, we’re just capitalists in the making. Someday we’ll be able to exploit our fellow men too. . . Go back to sleep